A post I commented on reached FP

"Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder" (pabuuu4) 02/01/2015 at 14:50 • Filed to: fp, problems

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Mfw reading the reactions to my post

People are mean. Never again.

Here is the thread :

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It was a honest question too. How am I trolling?

Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder 02/01/2015 at 14:55

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A few beauties:

''. You're just a dick for being negative about someone's unfortunate situation. Troll away...''

''Fuck you pabuuu... Hope ur suspension gives out on your POS "stanced" whip and the airbags fail to deploy when you run into a pole.''

''You watch too much television.''

''Because you're an asshole, that's why.''

GhostZ > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder 02/01/2015 at 14:56

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Because people (including you) have a hard time separating systemic thinking from personal thought.

They can't ask the question objectively "should walking to work be considered an achievement, and if so, how and why?" without also thinking "Am I a bad person if I don't agree with everyone else and like this?". Not to mention everyone who is self-serving and not even attempting a well-thought out response.

This guy is special because he has an article about him. People aren't mean, you're mean for not treating him special.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder 02/01/2015 at 14:57

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I agree with your sentiment. I would post more but I am not in the mood for also being accused of trolling.

Steve in Manhattan > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder 02/01/2015 at 14:57

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A hero is generally someone who does something that very few would do. I can see it.

djmt1 > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder 02/01/2015 at 14:58

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The world is a shitty place right and here was an opportunity to make it a bit better but you introduced some negatively for the sake of semantics into the discussion so you can't be surprised if people are pissed.

Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder > GhostZ 02/01/2015 at 15:00

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Not sure, but why should I treat him special because he has an article about him?

Why should I be a bad person if I don't agree with everyone else?

Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder > djmt1 02/01/2015 at 15:04

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I was questioning the use of already overused power-terms like ''true american hero'' wich seemed strange in that article.

norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder 02/01/2015 at 15:06

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There's a bit of sarcasm I'm picking up in Ghost's comment.

Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder > norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback 02/01/2015 at 15:07

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Thanks for pointing that out, English is not my first language, so sarcasm can be hard to spot for me.

GhostZ > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder 02/01/2015 at 15:07

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That's my point. To you it doesn't make sense. Why should you treat him special? Why w ould you be a bad person? From a systemic mindset, it doesn't make any sense. If you're bad for not supporting this guy, does this make you bad for not giving to every charity? etc.

Thing is, those words are defined by the group around them. You can say the same thing in one place (FP) and get hated for it but say the same in Oppo and no one minds. It's about maintaining the status quo.

The status quo regarding this article is convoluted. First off, you have years of post-9/11 language that has made a large group of people firmly rooted in beliefs about America, the Working Class, and other simulcra that may or may not have ever existed. Then, you have the context. People do not come to Steve Lehto's blog to debate the ethics of the welfare state. They come there to feel good about themselves by reading something they like. Disrupt that, and it's no wonder they lash out at you.

Even in simple comments there's a lot of complexity and social interaction between humans, never forget that.

There's no right or wrong about it, just action and reaction.

djmt1 > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder 02/01/2015 at 15:08

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Well I can't contribute to the discussion on whether or not the term American Hero should be used so much since I'm British and we look for the baddies in a situation but maybe that wasn't the time to bring up a debate. People like their feel good moments.

 > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder 02/01/2015 at 15:10

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He is a hero after all.

Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder > GhostZ 02/01/2015 at 15:12

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Can you explain the third paragraph? What does 9/11 have to do with my comment?

Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder >  02/01/2015 at 15:13

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Why?

 > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder 02/01/2015 at 15:14

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I thought all heros got medals...

Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder >  02/01/2015 at 15:15

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Yeah okay, but why is this man a hero?

 > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder 02/01/2015 at 15:18

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Because SteveLehto said so! Now give the man a medal and a free car, and pay for his insurance and fuck having to work for a living.

JustWaitingForAMate > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder 02/01/2015 at 15:31

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Walking : Now considered a heroic effort in the US.

desertdog5051 > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder 02/01/2015 at 15:51

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Don't feel bad Pabuuu. When I have the audacity to question the mindset of the mob, I get the same response.

Cajun Ginger > Steve in Manhattan 02/01/2015 at 16:15

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I thought heroes helped someone else out.

Serial killers do things very few would do.

StoneCold > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder 02/05/2015 at 19:10

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I'm not EXACTLY sure what he meant, but I'll give it a try:
It has less to do with 9/11 itself, than with the instability and insecurity that has pervaded the United States since then. As a reaction to that uncertainty, citizens redoubled their commitment to the American system (both as a financial system and as a government), since what else has been better? And who built and comprises this system? THE WORKING CLASS UNITED STATES COMMENTERS! So if this guy is a hero, then me getting my homework done is being heroic, and sorting the recycling is heroic, and so on. If this guy is a hero, I'M A HERO! And that thought makes a lot of people do this -> :)

StoneCold > Pabuuu, JDM car enthusiast & Italian parts hoarder 02/05/2015 at 19:12

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To add-on:

So if you come between the commenters and feeling :)
then you are the bad guy. Is it right? Nope, but it's about people trying to be happy and screw anyone else. WHich is a terriblely selfish sentiment -_-